Some kid named Chris forgot to log out of his Facebook account, which led to his father seeing what he was up to on the site. That, in turn, led to what I’m pretty sure is the greatest Facebook status update of all time.
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It doesn’t matter if the kid ever saw ‘Marley and Me.’ Pop’s is simply bursting his bubble by exploding the gangsta facade in the most humorous, direct way possible. And rightfully so…
I assume this is a joke. Cuz it’s funny. LOL (Wouldn’t be so funny — if it was for real.)
Someone’s really thinking this dad is abusive? Because he’s calling his out being narcissistic? This is not about humiliation, this is about giving a son and his awfully misogynistic behavior some serious feedback which may be a great help for the kid!
Many kids need a reality check – but parents often don’t give it to the. No wonder college students tend to be more narcissistic than 30 years ago, according to a recent study!
When our two teenage boys wanted to create Facebook profiles, the only condition was they had to be our “friends”. We also became friends with many of their friends from school and regularly monitor what they are posting on their own walls and those of their friends. Whenever they seemed to be getting “too big for their britches”, my husband would yank their internet access. It only took a couple of these experiences and some reminders about being real and respectful online for them to learn the lesson.
I’m with you Donna. That’s what we did at our house. My daughter is a 19 year old college sophomore and I STILL am her friend and her password. My son let’s me update his status on occasion. I don’t regret giving them a facebook with “rules” that’s for sure!
You guys are nuts. Overprotective parenting is one of the biggest problems with this generation. Let your kids explore naturally, or they’re going to overcompensate and want more than ever to get out from under your controlling iron fists. Overprotective parenting creates incapable, repressed, problematic adults.
Trust me, I have worked with kids and parents for 13 years, and the negligent /over indulgent parenting is much more harmful. These are examples of “connected” involved parenting. I could back this up with a billion examples of kids who make it and those who don’t. In todays broken and misguided modern world, someone needs to keep them grounded and maintain limits.
Benny/Beth – I would like to know your ages and your basis for your morality and ethics. Benny – you are very misguided and Beth is “dead on” with her analysis. Your kids need parenting – the “friendship” can come later – when they have “walked a mile in our shoes” Beth mentions the kids who don’t make it – Prison, drug overdoses, suicide – I can give you many examples of kids in my generation (though fewer then) that their parents were their “buddies” and gave them a lot of unsupervised freedom – and I’m 64 years old!
Benny, Facebook and all other technology seem to be ruining the family as a whole. My son is either on Facebook or on his cell phone. We have set some rules, like no using the phone at dinner time. now, he wolfs his food down just to go back to Facebook. I know friends are important but shouldn’t family be just a little more important. Also, i asked to friend my son on Facebook which he did but then he started a new additional account. Kids today want to grow up way too fast.
There is nothing “over protective” about this, it’s the reality check this kid needs. If the “gangsta” facade was shattered by more parents then perhaps we would have a more respectful society over all. Allowing these kids to continue this behaviour creates dysfunctional, disrespectful adults.
Donna, Tammie,
Don’t want to bust your bubble. But your kids can easily add you to a list so you’ll still be “friends,” but you won’t see what they post. Any 12-year-old could show you how it’s done.
I’ve friended lots of people that never see anything I post (because they’ve been added to my “fake friends” list. I’ve also got one for family members.
The only way you can be sure what they are writing on Facebook is if you have their account username and password.
I hope you don’t have typos when you update his status.
All that has done is teach them to act one way around you and another around friends. When you stop dangling the carrot in the horses face, it no longer runs. It’s called behavioral modification, and it serves to reinforce the dynamic and cycle from which the dysfunctional behavior arises in the first place, because it teaches them to rely upon fear of consequence or desire for reward in order to function and it is not function in reality but merely adaptability. True change is catalyzed by cognitive dissonance and inspired when one realizes the value of certain behaviors, moral, or value judgments and arrives at them through logical correlation.
The longer you act like your child;s parent, the longer they will need a parent. The longer they will need external motivation like consequence and reward to dictate their behavior. You are training them to be reactionary, rather than proactive. When one determines what is just regardless of consequences and pursues moral action, that is function. If the child requires external motivation, no action can come from a place of genuine desire, but rather, it trains them to become manipulative and hide actual motives and desires. I suggest that you research a concept called Cognitive Behavioral Approach and Transactional Analysis. When one understand the motive of an action, what it is intended to achieve then one understands an individual. Teach them to determine their own standards and what is just, considerate, respectful and appropriate by their own philosophies. Do not teach them to rely upon YOUR mind but rather, encourage them to use their own. “Too big for their britches” is patronizing, demeaning and contrived, and your child will rebel against you because they know it is illegitimate, a mere show of force. The only reason they acknowledge you is because you wiled the monopoly on force, and their is nothing more demeaning than being asked to be servile to another human being. Respect their person, and they will grant you their own respect, genuinely. Not because they must, and certainly not “Becasue you said”. Now, how you respond to me will tell me all I need to know about the dynamic in your home and your relationship with your child.
When you learn to spell, perhaps you can read some actual literature in the field and then consider how ignorant your spiel is. Just because you throw in some (Inappropriately used) big words, you do not fool anyone with an education. Now, finish your homework so maybe you will graduate from high school.
Hahhh…excellent, PhD…and to the high school sophomores who are weighing in on how parents should let their kids do whatever they want, I have two thoughts–
One…I kind of hope you never have kids because we will have yet another generation to raise when you are finished screwing up….OR, Two.,when you DO have kids, you will eat your words when you find yourself worrying about them, even as they tell you they don’t need your interfernce.
The last line says it all. You’re at least a passive-aggressive and certainly a hypocrite.
Not sure?
I suggest you read your own pearls of wisdom, from the line before…
“The only reason they acknowledge you is because you wiled the monopoly on force, and their is nothing more demeaning than being asked to be servile to another human being. Respect their person, and they will grant you their own respect, genuinely. Not because they must, and certainly not “Becasue you said”. ”
Now, back to your last line.
“Now, how you respond to me will tell me all I need to know about the dynamic in your home and your relationship with your child.”
‘Smell the hypocrisy yet?
Feh.
Raven, i treat my son with total respect, he in turn thanks i am an ATM machine. what you wrote was really insightful but it doesn’t seem to work with all kids. Trust me, i am a very respectful father.
Raven – Psychological gibberish! The value of certain behaviors comes when they “learn” the behaviors. Logical correlation works well with older children (late teens or 20′s) or adults – but children do not have the ability to distinguish moral and value judgments unless they are first taught. You make them sound like the come out of the womb as adults (realizing some adults never mature).
I’m with Dad. I’ve got a teenager who has a FB page and it’s ridiculous some of the stuff that’s posted. You better believe I call her on it and I do so in person AND by commenting on her absurd posts. Discretion, humility and good common sense are learned by being a good role model but mostly by the direct consequences of their actions. She steps out of line and I’m there to nudge her back in with a gentle pat or a kick in the ass…whichever is warranted.
All I do when my kids leave their accounts logged in is say what an awesome mom they have. I have 5 boys, 26, 21, 18, 16, & 14. And they are probably as embarrassed by that than anything else.
If the kid thinks he’s cool enough to “beat a ho’s ass” or “roll a fattie wit his boyz” then he isn’t above some humiliation. You guys feel bad that he’s embarrassed but not put off by the fact that he glorifies violence towards women?! This is what is wrong with kids today…they are coddled beyond belief and when they get out into the real world they have mental breakdowns over the fact that people don’t powder their ass for them. Good for this father!!!
I honestly don’t remember NOT having a problem with my mom saying something incredibly embarrassing at my expense to my friends and peers, and as far as I know, many others share these same awkward memories.
The only difference is that this is digital, and somehow that makes people think it’ll live in our hearts and minds forever.
When was the last time you looked up Chocolate Rain? Or even Rebecca Black?
It’ll be a passed along on the net until someone posts a Lady Gaga nip slip.
Humiliating? Absolutely. Traumatizing? Uggghhhh…..
Up to as little as 15 years ago, a parent who might have overheard this dialogue, like say on the phone, might have had the same verbal outburst to their child, where their peers would’ve most likely had the same reaction and spread the gossip about their lame friend by word of mouth rather than posts and texts. Were we having conversations about traumatizing kids in public then?
Until we can get kids to separate cyberspace from reality, which I think is the more dire underlying issue, it’ll be very hard for me to take stories like this with any degree of sympathy.
If that kid did have pot, I hope the Dad smoked it.
As a fourteen-year-old, this is awesome. My mother showed it to me and I laughed for like, ten minutes
All of you people who are saying this is “such a big blow to their child’s self esteem” and shtuff are ignorant and have been reading too many parenting books that are a load of BS 
Also, IF THIS WERE REAL (which it is not) his friends would laugh and then literally ten minutes later it would be forgotten because something much more interesting would have happened 
Totes Magotes people, buh bye
Who cares if this 15 year old is alienated for what his dad said in the last sentence.
This kid thinks it’s okay to call women hoes and “beat them up”.
He should feel alienated for being the kind of douche bag that would hit a girl.
To everyone in favor of humiliating their children: what exactly is the lesson here? You claim that it’s a lesson in being true to oneself, and a lesson in not idolizing negative behaviors and quality traits, but it’s not. It’s a lesson in hiding things even more from your parents. This wasn’t punishment for misrepresenting himself, this was punishment for leaving his Facebook account open.
Completely ridiculing a 15-year-old in front of his peers is childish, immature, and counterproductive. Instead of thinking about the severity of the things he’s publishing about himself online, he’ll be too busy doing damage control and lashing out at peers who’ll undoubtedly make fun of him for the rest of his High School experience. Instead of thinking about the implications of what he idolizes, he’ll be further alienated by his father.
O, BOO WHOOO. THAT’S THE PROBLEM WITH KIDS THESE DAYS…..THEY GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING. THE DAD DID THE RIGHT THINK. MAYBE THE KID WILL THINK AGAIN WHEN LYING,
THINKING IT’S COOL TO BEAT UP WOMEN… DOING DOPE. YOUR AN IDIOT. AND OBVIOUSLY 15 ALSO. THE KID SHOULD OF GOTTEN HIS BUTT WOOPED.
The right “think”? “Your” an idiot? The irony stings. Amazing how so many get offended because someone else makes an opinion they disagree with.
Although the kid does apparently lack some common sense here, so yeah +1 to dad.
Dad is a big schmok, and he his to regret it bad
Would not have been my choice as a parent, but the kid will be fine. If something like this is going to damage trust, there are bigger problems. The deal in our house is that if you under 18/still in High school, using my computer, with me paying the bills: I not only am your “friend” on Facebook, but I get your password. Don’t give me reason to take a peek, and I will never use it. Grades are good, no drugs/alcohol/porno, no calls from the police, chores are done. I have never had reason to look. HOWEVER, an Aunt/Uncle saw a posting from a friend on my oldest son’s FB and called “Granddad” to tattle. Granddad called me to say that he was worried. I advised my son, who was an adult at the time, to be very careful about what he puts up and gives people access to. It was a good, but very embarrassing lesson.
To all the people talking about it not being the end of the world. It has obviously been a looooong time since you have been in High school. With Social media these days this message popped up on half of his classmates smart phones, who in turn forwarded it to the other half. Now he will be ridiculed till he breaks and becomes a real problem. But hey what’s another school shooting or stabbing? If you don’t think that’s possible I will send you a list of underage offenders in or waiting for trial that killed a classmate cause of a girl, bullying, or just taking it to far. Be a man and talk to your son. What ever happened to not airing your dirty laundry in public? This guy is a Douche, and at this point the kid may show his stubbornness and resolve and mold himself into that gangster that dad said he wasn’t. But hell once he beats them to death with a hammer he can throw a hell of a house party(this happened near where I live recently)
Nope. Dad rocks. Whats a matter? get caught with ur mitts in some nasty keyboard work. I rolled. That’s not bullying, that Daddy-ing. Dood, find urself some ther-a-pee. You’re in need.
Dad totally rocks. Be a man, lighten up. Keep your list, tough guy. Go watch Marley and Me
Something tells me you’re a teenager.
For Dad’s sake, lets just hope his son doesn’t figure out his facebook status, and update the world on his parents’ latest fights, financial problems, or drinking habits. Maybe Dad’s boss wants to know what Dad really thinks of him!
This is fake, because of the timestamp. If it were posted “Wednesday at 3PM” that means it was up for at least a few hours before the screenshot was taken. That no one liked or commented on the post in that time is IMPOSSIBLE. Too bad…
his facebook password, rather.
I bet Chris has already rolled a fatty or two.
The best way to correct a child’s behavior is through shame. If the criminals in our world felt more of it, the world would be a safer place. All the parents who try to be their child’s “friend” are not doing their job – and Americans are more guilty of it than other cultures.
That’s extremely rude and cruel. Parents need to respect their childrens privacy and stop “snooping”, its a violation of privacy. Respect your child’s privacy just as you would expect them to respect yours.
When you’re 15, you’re a minor and under someone else’s care. You don’t have any legal rights, and “privacy” at that age is a privilege, not a right. This kid obviously needs a reality check.
I can’t believe what I am reading on hear! You people who are talking about the kid being damaged for life and having no social life for the next 3 years because of this…please tell me you are joking?? Let me guess, your kids play on sports team that don’t keep score and everybody wins right? This dad did NOTHING wrong and this kid will not be damaged for life. And if this kid has no social life because of this, then he didn’t have real friends in the first place. Get a grip people!!
Absolutely there should be consequences, but the father should be more mature than his son. I am not a “new age” parent; I was quite strict and my sons are now all in their 20s and doing very well. I never tried to humiliate them as this father did.
Personally, I think this is HILARIOUS.
Firstly, the kid can delete a status update, so probably very few people saw it, and it’s not going to be there “forever.” Most likely a handful of the kid’s good friends saw it, chuckled, and that’s about it.
Secondly, what the father did is no worse than what one of the kid’s good friends would have done. Sure, the kid will blow up, claim his social life is over, and say that his father “damaged” him, but teenagers say that every day regardless.
Parents are far less important to a child’s development than they’d like to think…
This father showed really poor judgement — Marley & Me is a terrible movie.
KT August 4, 2011 at 2:34 pm
” The best way to correct a child’s behavior is through shame”
Really Dr. Spock? Shame? Not talking to your kid or communicating? I pray to all that is holy that you are not a parent
Donna Forbis! at last a voice of reason. No Shaming her kids into submission, actually talking to her children, setting boundaries and disciplining them in a healthy way.
” my husband would yank their internet access. It only took a couple of these experiences and some reminders about being real and respectful online for them to learn the lesson.”
Well, if we’re lucky, he’ll be so ashamed that he has to prove to his friends that he smokes blunts, hits women, and is gangsta. sort of like how when you tell your daughter that the boy she likes is a bad influence. If she knows her father’s against it, there’s NO WAY she’d want to date him.
To the dingbat that was worried about the child’s self esteem. You are SOOO right, it would be much better for him to carry on the facade until he got caught by the cops rolling that fat one or better yet in jail for beatin’ that ho…. I most certainly hope you don’t have children! Good for you Pops! Ya did the right thing!
@blogdaddy Amen!
Dad’s post is what I’d call some gen-u-ine OG shee-it. Now tht IS Gangsta!
That is genius. “Marley and Me”? Exceptional work.
This is hilarious. Although I wouldn’t have posted anything like that… I would have changed his password so he couldn’t log in, and confront him about it when he got home. You need to experience humility when you behave like that, because the sooner you realize you’re not “the sh**”, the better off everyone will be. But the humility should be between the kid and his parents, not all his friends.
“gangsta.”
“beat a ho’s ass”
“roll a fatty wit his boyz.”
Forget for a moment that the above was written by a child. (yes, a child…) If any adult spoke like that, what would you think of that person? Would you regard that person as someone you’d want to be associated with? If the answer is yes, you are probably not a parent, or not out of high school, so I am not addressing you. I fully understand and remember the need for children and teens to act a role, and actually helped my two adult children through that phase as best as I could while allowing them some independence of actions.
However, for those of you adults who are parents here, imagine this is your child who wrote this. How would you feel seeing your son, who used to cry at the endings of animal movies and be afraid of the dark, talking about beating up “ho’s” and “rolling fatties?” Not so nice a feeling is it?
Now, sure, this dad COULD have just pulled his son aside and had a talk to him about respect and self-dignity, etc., etc., etc.. Blah, blah, blahblahblah blah. How many of you remember those talks your parents had with you? And honestly… how many of those talks did you REALLY take to heart as a teen? (And how many of those talks did you just take to heart AFTER you had teens of your own? If you are in your 40′s like me, I know this last statement probably rings truer than the previous.)
Yes, this father could have taken “the high road” so to speak, and all that would have happened would have been his son giving him the “yes, Dad, I’ll never do it again, Dad” routine. Then he would have lay low a while, and made sure he either never left his facebook signed in again…or deleted his account and created a new one at a public library or a friend’s computer under a different name. Problem solved on his end, dad would be none the wiser, and on with the behavior.
In my opinion, this father didn’t ruin his son for all eternity. Get real. Will this kid get some picking on for what his dad did? Sure he will…until the next teenage scandal takes the heat off of him, and we all know those scandals are weekly at that age. What will most likely happen is he will get some laughter at his expense, and his “boyz” will say how messed up it was of his dad to do that, and then…life will move on. But this child will probably never talk that way again, especially if his father included the “good old-fashioned talking to” after his son found out about the posting. (And at least this is a better “punishment” than the one on the Rosanne show where she dresses up as a farmer with huge lipstick drawn lips to walk her son to school. Although I would have probably done that myself! LOL)Besides…we don’t know if this was the latest of a string of behavioral issues Chris had been having and this was the Dad’s last straw. Ya know??
Good job, Chris’ Dad! Two thumbs up!
Kid got what he deserved. Gotta love Dad. Kid will never live down that embarrassment. Then again, he probably could’ve avoided everything, if he didn’t claim to be all “gangsta”.
The kid is a little shit, and needs his ass kicked, in addition/
First of all, this is really funny.
Not attention parents:
Some of you on here are deluded enough to think that you can regulate your kids’ online experience in any way.
Just because you are friends with them on Facebook, or have the password to the Facebook account you think they use, does not mean that you know what they are doing.
Young people are ungovernable – the best you can do is create enough space for them to come to you when they need help and to offer helpful constructive advice when it is requested – if it’s never requested, that’s your fault not theirs.
For instance, the kid who’s parents are friends with him on Facebook and friends with his friends on Facebook – get a clue! Clearly your son(s) have separate Facebook accounts and they have you blocked and maybe they don’t even use it for anything other than messages so that you have no chance of ever seeing anything.
For the parent who has their kids’ password: don’t be so naive! If my parents had had my password, I would simply make another account and not tell them about it.
Discipline and regulation does not work it simply makes rule-breaking more opaque which cuts you completely out of the picture.
This is coming from someone who had relatively strict parents.
I’m not telling you to give your kids booze or anything like that – but if they do not feel comfortable talking to you about what’s going on of their own free will, it’s because they do not trust you. And that’s your fault.
Good for Pops. But just to let him know, I’m in my fifties and I cried at the end of Marley and Me, too.
You guys seem to think that the humiliation was the end of this child’s punishment. It almost certainly wasn’t. At that point, the father is still going to be giving his child no less than a serious lecture, and possibly force his son to delete his Facebook account. The alienation will come no matter what. Correcting this behavior even by making his son hate him is the is the father’s *job*.
This kid bragged to his friends that he would “beat a ho”. He needs to be taken down a peg in his friends’ eyes so they won’t find that credible, and in his own. This group bad-ass mentality is dangerous and eventually will lead to more trouble for them.
For goodness sake, there is so much hogwash about this hurting the child.. Get real. Remember that this is a 15 yr old boy who is only concerned with his reputation and not in the good way. This child needed a serious reality check. You can’t go around saying such things just to impress someone, it will only end badly. Leave the dad alone, he did what he thought was the right. Just because you don’t agree with his methods, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Now if he beat the child to within an inch of his life, then go ahead and call him out. Fact is, you don’t know this kid, or what he is like, or how he has to be disciplined in order to insure that he lives a long healthy happy life.
Yes, it is embarrassing, yes the child’s “friends” will laugh at him or ditch him entirely, but big deal. Everyone gets laughed at and everyone loses “friends”. It’s called life, get over it.
My house, my rules. Of course the kid should have been advised of the rules long ago and at 15 been aware of the consequences of infractions. The “kid” should also be aware that if you published the words they are there forever.
How about we stop criticizing this father for parenting. This method may not work for every child, but let’s at least give him an A+ for paying attention. Some may label this as over protective and think it will lead to even more rebellious behavior, but you don’t know for certain what this kid is really like. I’m sure non of you know what this kid needs. His father is the only person in this scenario that has the slightest understanding. This is a small glimpse into the lives of people that you don’t know. You have no idea what sort of parenting this kid needs. Let’s just give credit to the fact that this dad is trying to steer his son in a positive direction and leave it at that.
Just thought I’d leave this here….with some interesting reading on what happens when you coddle children and such.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/05/navarrette.millennials.jobs/index.html?hpt=hp_abar
This kid’s father did the right thing.
That is totally epic. Parents 1, kids 0.
I am truly and utterly amazed that some see this as abusive in any form. Is it humiliating? Yes..and it should be! Whats wrong with humility?? As far as him being ridiculed and shunned by his so called peers? Good! Any peer that would see this as acceptable behavior is not the peer that he should have anyway. Lastly, there is no one way to teach all children. They are all different and should be taught with this in mind. What motivates, stimulates and permeates is going to be different for all. The right way is simply the one that they respond to in a positive manner
Oh, those crazy boomers! Age and youth will never agree…
Thirty minutes at any theater on a Saturday night will provide the evidence and answers regarding our free-range kids. I am certain that Junior will grow-up just fine and someday realize that his panties half way down his butt and “Saggin” were just not that “sick”.
Every comment here is proof of the fact this world has gone mad. Remember when everyone knew how to parent? Just watch some old sit-coms from the 50′s. Pretty basic stuff. What nobody has figured out here, is who’s at fault for this. That is, who’s fault it is that the son acts like this? It’s the dads. He should be ashamed of himself for raising a son like this. This 15yo kid wasn’t born a 15yo kid. He was raised to this point. At this point, some of you are right. The dads actions are doing nothing but creating fear and paranoia. And a loss of trust in the one person he should trust. At 15, if your kid acts like this, it’s your fault. Shame, reality checks or anything that alienates you from your child is going to hurt him.
I had 4 good friends I grew up with. I had the parents that were on the stricter side. The most successfull of us all? His parents gave him no curfew and few rules over his social life. But he had chores and responsibilities. The one with the strictest parents? Dead after a gun fight and high speed car chase later in his 30′s. His dad was an undercover narc agent. You have to start early and young. That’s when you have to be firm and demanding of your kids. So they grow up with values. Most kids like this have the parents that want to be their kids buddies early on. i.e., no spanking, no sports with scores, and all that propaganda. All the, you are special, you can do anything bs we feed kids these days. Then later, when their kids “betray” their friendship, by acting like this, they react out of anger and resentment, and decide they need to control their kids every move. Essentially taking over the power of thinking for their kids. Which releases the kids from having to think for themselves, make decisions, use logic, etc. And the progression continues to the next generation. Where this kids gonna say, my dad was an @$$, so I’m gonna be my kids buddy…. And round and round we go. Because we all remember our teen years, when dad hacked our FB acct and humiliated us. But who remembers being spanked? Or taught right from wrong when we were 9?
For the record, I’m in my 40′s, my parents applied the Dr. Spock method. I also have ADD. And that is where my path became bumpy. I was also in AP classes from 1st grade on.
And also for the record. There’s nothing any of us can do to change the way society is evolving. It’s too late for that. We gave up the right of self determination years ago. The government controls that now. Just like one day, they’ll be hacking the adults accounts because they don’t like what they are saying. And nobody will say a thing. Because of dads like this, that are training their kids (the future adults) that it acceptable to be corrected if your beliefs are not socially correct. It’s sickening how brainwashed people are. And most of you don’t even believe in brainwashing, let alone believe it’s happened to you.
I must be getting old. I agree with the title of this post!
@Mario AMEN!
But then again, since I am a Girl, I don’t really like the part ‘Beat a hoes A$$’
Why are kids so ashamed or embarrassed to write the truth on Facebook. What is so wrong with being a kid. I know my son talks a lot a sh*t on Facebook and i am not proud of that. Trust me, he did not learn it from me. Why can’t he just be himself.
35 & no kids here.
poor bugger lol.
Social media is part of the human evolution. I think parents should guide their kids through it.
Anybody else here think the real lesson learned is ‘Don’t leave your account open’? I think he was taught an important lesson there. He had to learn very quickly to be comphortable in his own skin heh heh. I do hope there was some form of payback though
As far as questioning each other’s parenting is concerned…well…I could never have seen this happening without a fist fight (in the old days when all we had were telephones at home you had to dial). However, my belief is – if you do not bash them, don’t molest them and they are eating and breathing – you’re doing good! Don’t get involved with the trolling
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